Of course, "robbery" also STIMULATES a capitalist society. I would say roughly around midnight. St Circumstance saidMaybe the pity you have for Linda- who walked away free (That She blew it is her own fault)- would be better served to the people affected by what she helped do?? Leslie told Marvin Part what she believed.Marvin Part thought she was mad.Part taped her and asked her questions that brought the very answers that had led him to the conclusion she was a lunatic.Part wanted the Judge to hear the tape but he refused and ordered 3 psychiatrists to listen to it to see if they felt she was fit to stand trial.Leslie herself refused to be examined by any psychiatrists because as far as she was concerned she was perfectly sane.Leslie fired Marvin Part.The events mash rather than bear out your assertion.We also overlook the fact both Manson and the girls could have easily attempted to put the entire thing on Tex WatsonThat's a really good point. Both of her parents remarried a short time later, and her father moved to Miami, Florida. ?Then she walks and spends the rest of her live breaking the law and partying wit her own child who she breaks laws with.Yeah, all true. That said there are occasions too numerous to count in the Tate-LaBianca trial where he 'leads' his key witness to the answer he wants (and gets away with it). WebTestimony of Linda Kasabian in the Charles Manson Trial Parent Category: Charles Manson Trial (1970-71) (Star prosecution witness Linda Kasabian was on the witness stand for eighteen days.) Even if all the things said about her are true in terms of immunity and self interest, that doesn't change that. I ended up running away at 18 and skipped the country. Linda and Robert had a daughter named Tanya in 1968. However, if there's one thing I've picked up from Helter Skeptics that I find really valuable, it's to approach this case from a number of different angles, especially angles that are not the standard ones we've been given. Oh and I don't think the events are clear long before Jay Sebring is shot. He is expressing his opinion just like RH, me, you, Saint, etc. Linda Kasabian, a former member of the infamous Manson Family, passed away at the age of 73. No screaming for it to stop, etcThat would possibly be because at the time Kasabian asked for it to be stopped, Pat was inside struggling with Folger or chasing her through Tate's bedroom out to the pool. WELL, WELL, there it is folks - the PROOF - the spell of Charlie Manson's "hypnotic" POWER lasts FOREVER, or at least for a few years, depending upon how strongly you got zapped.Thanks Dreath,BTW: the Defense $$$ got had by Daye Shinn. ?Then she walks and spends the rest of her live breaking the law and partying wit her own child who she breaks laws with.Human side? That is exactly what Leslie Van Houton was charged and CONVICTED for.One intelligent Prosecutor, One competent Defense Attorney, One Judicially savy Judge and WHO really cares what a bunch of "moon rocks" THINK - it was a "robbery. That is a silly discussion. Though it may sound like an almost insane point to make, I think that the real loser in the entire saga was indeed Linda. You are trained, instead, to focus on "indicia of credibility and reliability". If Perry and other legal dramas were like real life in courtrooms, few would watch them !You are trained, instead, to focus on "indicia of credibility and reliability"That's partly why people on trial will dress "respectably." He also went on to say that he preferred Linda as she hadn't killed anyone but because of the grand jury deal, was stuck with Susan.Interestingly, even with Susan, he simply had no case against Linda. Excellent work by Dreath here. The good guys are the victims, the bad guys are the killers. I only decide how I wanna feel. Joe Sommerlad. I meant that they claim to know the "Real motive" My apologies George. document.write(part3 + ''); It can't be HS because that makes Charlie responsible. Both have different conclusions.I don't know what you get from that but I know what I get from that. Most likely a white man took his place. Kasabian passed away on 21 January at a hospital in Tacoma, Washington. Leslie told Marvin Part there were to be 2 death squads. She answered the question. In fact, his case is better against her then Van Houten at that point. Linda Kasabian, a 20-year old from New Hampshire, was with her husband Bob and their 15-month old daughter, Tanya. "She obviously neglected to mention that she got into Steven Parent's car. Linda and her baby daughter Tanya returned to New Hampshire to live with Linda's mother. This post piqued my interest.have not really commented in the past few years but Dreath, great investigative work. I've never thought of it like that. how many dogs can you have in henderson, nv. ", Q: "Did this impress you when he said you had a father hang-up? The couple had a daughter named Tanya who was born in 1968. 122 26 comments Best Add a Comment notthesedays 28 days ago She tried to live as anonymous a life as possible afterwards, which is probably why it wasn't revealed until now even though it happened in January. It doesn't really matter.

Kasabian ended up with the Manson group after she left an unhappy marriage when she was 21. But she testified against great danger. They had a second child together, and Robert Kasabian left for South America. You leave it to someone else to decide if someone is lying: judge or jury. But they also shine a light on the crimes themselves. As soon as Atkins testifies Bugliosi has a pretty good case against Kasabian. There is no reason why it would be rejected when she went to see Bobby Beausoleil. It doesn't need to be personal. She was a former member of the notorious Manson family cult. One gunshot would have sufficed. Yeah, all true.There again, some of us have brothers, sisters, Dads, Mums, cousins, close friends etc that are in that vein and we still love them just the same and haven't yet abandoned them, though it may have been touch and go sometimes.You have a different sort of connection to your family and close friends than you do to a stranger who you have never met I hope.Had my brother lived a life like Lindas- maybe I feel some obligation to go above and beyond to feel something he doesn't deserve. It also partly explains why she never went to LE {not that that was uppermost in her considerations !}. Don't post that when I'm taking a drink of beer. Those who became 18 before 1980. She had children named Tanya and Angel. It'll take a while for me to digest it.

She married Robert Kasabian but that marriage turned sour she still held on. Even her Mum acknowledged that.Don't waste your tears for Linda and LeslieI'm a human being, St. I am not heartless. He said something to the effect that Charlie had a very strong case and that there was pretty much no evidence against him. lol your insight is interesting reading.. WebHampshire. Many thanks to you, Dreath. So if Kasabian stumbles on what he wants and says they arrived at the Polanski residence "4-5 hours after dark". ?Most definitely.Both were at different stages and had come through different experiences.However.there were also some similarities. With all the mania going on, Susan's statement of "everything we did from the time he cut the poles to the time we got back to the ranch was spontaneous. Fusing light into darkness?? I personally think if you wrote the HS motive out of this Manson ends up exactly where he is. Apprently asking why was out of line and a sin. On the influence of Charles Manson over Family members: Direct examination by Vincent Bugliosi: [10], Although the Manson gang's murder trial lasted nine months, with testimony from numerous witnesses (including several other former "family" members), Kasabian's testimony, more than anything else, according to Bugliosi, led to the convictions of Manson, Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel, and Van Houten. Saint, no apology is necessary. // -->,